Differences Between Mt.24:29-31 and 1 Thess.4:13-17
First of all the verses in Matthew address “time or when,” something happens while the verses in Thessalonians address “who” things happens to.
Mt.24:29 tells us what is going to take place immediately after the tribulation of the Day of the LORD, the day for the vengeance of our God:
- The sun shall be darkened
- The moon shall not give her light
- The stars fall from heaven
- The powers of the heavens shall be shaken (all 3 I suppose)
On the other hand 1 Thess. 4:13-15 tell a different set of events.
- Vs. 13 is speaking about dead Christians who are asleep
- Vs. 14 tells us that those who are asleep “in Jesus” will God bring with him (bring where, when)
- Vs. 15 tells us that we who are alive and remain shall not precede those who are dead.
In Mt. 24:30 3 things happen:
- Then (after there is no light on the earth because the sun and moon aren’t shining and stars have all disappeared), a sign of the son of man appears in heaven.
- Then shall all the nations of earth mourn, (beat and strike their breasts in grief or lament)
- And they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory
Now in 1 Thess.4:16 we see 2 things:
- Jesus himself descends from heaven with a stimulating cry of incitement, with the voice or tone of the archangel Michael, that reverberates like God!
- Next we see the dead in Christ rising up from the dead, first.
Back in Mt. 24:31 we see 1 maybe 2 things happen;
- He, Jesus, shall send his angels with great reverberation and
- They shall gather together his elect from the 4 quarters of heaven, not earth, from one extremity to the other. Who are these elect? I don’t know specifically, but I do know they weren’t Christians, because Jesus nor any other Hebrew Prophets knew there would be a group called such. These elect, because they are gathered from the 4 quarters of heaven, could be angels, since they are the only other ones in heaven, besides God and Jesus. 1 Tim. 5:21 calls the angels elect. Maybe they are Israelites. One thing we do know, they aren’t Christians.
For our final verse of 1 Thess. 4:17 we have 3 things happen:
- Then we who are alive and remain (on the earth) shall be caught up, snatched, together with them (the dead in Jesus) in the clouds.
- To meet the Lord in the air
- So shall we ever be with the Lord (we go wherever he goes).
SUMMARY
- WE CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT THE 2ND COMING JESUS SPOKE ABOUT WILL BE AFTER THE TRIBULATION, THE DAYS OF GOD’S WRATH.
- WE KNOW THAT CHRISTIANS ARE LITERALLY RESCUED FROM GOD’S WRATH ACCORDING TO 1 THESS. 1:10, 5:9; THEREFORE THE RAPTURE IS BEFORE THE TRIBULATION.
- NOTHING HAPPENS TO THE SUN, MOON AND STARS AT THE RAPTURE
- NO SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN APPEARS BEFORE JESUS DESCENDS FROM THE CLOUDS TO MEET US IN THE AIR.
- JESUS DOESN’T SEND HIS ANGELS TO GATHER US TOGETHER FROM HEAVEN, THE LORD HIMSELF MEETS US.
- THERE IS NO ONE BEATING THEIR BREASTS IN GRIEF OR DREAD AT HIS APPEARANCE
- NO ONE ON THE EARTH SEES HIM DESCENDING AT THE RAPTURE
- THERE IS NO MENTION OF ANY DEAD BEING GATHERED TOGETHER AT THE 2ND COMING
- THE ONLY ONES I CAN SEE BEING GATHERED TOGETHER AT THE 2ND COMING ARE ANGELS PREPARING FOR THE BATTLE OF HAR-MO’ED, TO QUASH THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET AND THEIR ENTOURAGE.
- NO ONE, LIVING OR DEAD, IS BEING RAISED FROM THE EARTH MEETING JESUS IN THE AIR AT THE 21ND COMING.
- THERE CAN BE NO DOUBT THAT THESE ARE 2 SEPARATE EVENTS WITH HARDLY ANYTHING IN COMMON
Post Script
Concerning the supposed trumpet(s), Mt. 24:31 says And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect KJV
“Sound” is not in the texts; neither is “a.” Trumpet is translated from NT:4536 salpigx (sal’-pinx); perhaps from NT:4535 (through the idea of quavering or reverberation): 4535 is salos, a vibration, a billow.
(Biblesoft’s New Exhaustive Strong’s Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
Think of Jimi Hendrix playing the guitar to picture a great reverberation! IMO, trumpet is a supplied analogy. Could just as easily been a bugle, but I don’t think it was either.
The etymology of the ancient Greek word salpinx (σάλπιγξ) is somewhat obscure but is widely believed to be onomatopoeic or descriptive of its sound. onomatopoeic: ɒnəmatəˈpiːɪk/adjective
- (of words) formed in imitation of a natural sound “it was independently developed in more than one place as an onomatopoetic term”
- of or relating to or characterized by onomatopoeia. Onomatopoeia is a type of word, or the process of creating a word, that phonetically imitates, resembles, or suggests a sound that it refers to.
Primary Theories of Origin
- “Thunderer”: Many scholars and historical sources suggest the word implies “thunderer” or is linked to the sound of thunder. This connects the instrument’s piercing, loud blast to the roar of Zeus or natural storms, reflecting its use to instill awe or terror in battle.
In 1 Thess. 4:16 it was Jesus himself, not his angels, with a very descriptive battle or victory cry that raised the dead in Christ:1 Thess 4:16
16 for the Lord himself, with an assembling shout, with archangel’s voice and with trump of God, shall descend from heaven; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;
Darby
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Why ‘Church’ Should Be Replaced by ‘Assembly’
When a friend of mine first introduced the idea of Jesus building his Church in heaven and not on the earth, and then highlighted that the church here should be called the Church of God according to the Christian Scriptures, it motivated me to look for that scripture that we all know so well, ”the Lord added to the Church daily….”
Here we have it in the beloved KJV that most of us grew up on:
Acts 2:47
Praising God and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. KJV
If Jesus’s Church is in Heaven, how could he be adding to it daily here on earth? (This deserves a pause for answers). Could the answer be just a matter of Translation? Let’s see what two other translations say:
Acts 2:47
praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved. NASU
Acts 2:47
praising God, and having favour with all the people; and the Lord added [to the assembly] daily those that were to be saved.
Darby
Now that we have found a conflict between the 3 translations, what do we do? If we have a Greek Interlinear, we go look to see what it says. It says <church> 846 auto, the same, as in all the people. So, ekklesia, which we all have been taught means church, does not exist in Acts 2:47. (The sideways carrot marks < > generally indicated that what is between them is not in the texts, as is the case here). This comes as quite a surprise to me.
To me this posed quite a quandary! Where do I go from here? Another formerly held belief shattered to smitherenes! So what’s left to do, look up ekklesia. Here is what it means according to Thayer’s Greek Lexicon:
“a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place; an assembly.” (See side column for further definition). What we don’t see, is the word ”church,” as any part of the definition. What we do see, predominantly, is ”Assembly.”
Etymology of the word Church
“The etymology of the word “church” is a complex and multifaceted topic. Based on the provided search results, here is a summary of the key findings: Greek origins:
The English word “church” is ultimately derived from the Greek adjective “kuriakos” (κυριακός), meaning “of (or belonging to) the Lord”.
This adjective is found only twice in the Christian Scriptures, in 1 Corinthians 11:20 and Revelation 1:10, referring to the Lord’s supper and the Lord’s day, respectively.”
1 Cor 11:20
Therefore, when you meet together, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper.
The Lord’s is the word kuriakos (koo-ree-ak-os’) NT:2960; from NT:2962, kurios; belonging to the Lord (Jehovah or Jesus):
Rev 1:10-11
I was in the spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like the sound of a trumpet, NASU
Now we will look at Young’s Literal Translation of a few verses containing ekklesia:
Matt 16:18
‘And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;
Acts 5:11
11 and great fear came upon all the assembly, and upon all who heard these things.
Eph 1:22-23
22 and all things He did put under his feet, and did give him — head over all things to the assembly,
23 which is his body, the fulness of Him who is filling the all in all,
Not in one verse, of 114 scriptures, where ekklesia is used, does the YLT translate it Church!
Much like we have eliminated Old Testament and New Testament from our vocabulary, I think it is time to eliminate “Church” as well! If as close as we can come to it, is a transliteration of kuriakos, we have a pretty weak case for using it at all.
I am of the opinion that what exists in the Hebrew Scriptures should set the precedence for the Christian Scriptures. For example, Church doesn’t exist in the Hebrew Scriptures any more than resurrection does. But what does exist is qahal — OT:6951 an assembly, a company, a congregation, a convocation
a) an assembly for evil counsel, for war or invasion, for religious purposes Ex. 12:6
b) a company (used of returning exiles) Ez. 38:15
c) a congregation as an organized body Joel 2:16
(from The Online Bible Thayer’s Greek Lexicon and Brown Driver & Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, Copyright © 1993, Woodside Bible Fellowship, Ontario, Canada. Licensed from the Institute for Creation Research.)
Deut 31:30 Then Moses spoke in the hearing of all the assembly of Israel the words of this song, until they were complete: NASU
Judg 20:2 And the chief of all the people, even of all the tribes of Israel, presented themselves in the assembly of the people of God, four hundred thousand footmen that drew sword. KJV
Qahal is used 123 times in the Hebrew Scriptures, coming close to the 114 of ekklesia!
Other usages of Assembly in the Hebrew Scriptures:
5712, edah, 149 times
6116, atsarah, 11 times
5475, cowd, 21 times Job 15:8, 29:4 the secret of God; Ps. 89:7 the assembly of the saints!
4186, mowshab, 44 times
4150, mowed/moed, 223 times Is. 41:13 Mount of Assembly
When it comes to the phrase, “Church of God,” it is used 8 times in the Christian Scriptures. All 8 of these verses use the word ekklesia, which we now know does not mean “church!” 6 words in the Hebrew Scriptures are translated “assembly” many times in their 571 usages; never church. Therefore, in my humble opinion, Assembly should replace the word church everywhere it is used in the Christian Scriptures, just like the Young’s Literal Translation has! Since we no longer say the word mystery for musterion, neither should we say the word church, for ekklesia.
THE ASSEMBLY OF GOD
| When a friend of mine first introduced the idea of Jesus building his Church in heaven and not on the earth, and then highlighted that the church here should be called the Church of God according to the Christian Scriptures, it motivated me to look for that scripture that we all know so well, ”the Lord added to the Church daily….” Here we have it in the beloved KJV that most of us grew up on: Acts 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. KJV If Jesus’s Church is in Heaven, how could he be adding to it daily here on earth? (This deserves a pause for answers). Could the answer be just a matter of Translation? Let’s see what a more accurate translation says: Acts 2:47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved. NASU Now that we have found a conflict between the 2 translations, what do we do? If we have a Greek Interlinear, we go look to see what it says. It says <church> 846 (Strong’s Number) auto, the same, as in all the people. So, ekklesia, 1577, which we all have been taught means church, does not exist in Acts 2:47. (The sideways carrot marks < > generally indicated that what is between them is not in the texts, as is the case here). To me this posed quite a quandary! Where do I go from here? Another formerly held belief shattered to smitherenes! So what’s left to do, look up ekklesia. Here is what it means according to Thayer’s Greek Lexicon: “a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place; an assembly.” What we don’t see, is the word ”church,” as any part of the definition. What we do see, predominantly, is ”Assembly.” Now we will look at Young’s Literal Translation of a few verses containing ekklesia: Matt 16:18 ‘And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it; Acts 5:11 11 and great fear came upon all the assembly, and upon all who heard these things. Eph 1:22-23 22 and all things He did put under his feet, and did give him — head over all things to the assembly, 23 which is his body, the fulness of Him who is filling the all in all, Not in one verse of 114 scriptures where ekklesia is used, does the YLT translate it Church! You might be asking yourself, ”If ekklesia doesn’t mean Church, then what the heck, if anything, does?” Good question. Etymology of the word Church The etymology of the word “church” is a complex and multifaceted topic. Based on the provided search results, here is a summary of the key findings: Greek origins: The English word “church” is ultimately derived from the Greek adjective “kuriakos” (κυριακός), meaning “of (or belonging to) the Lord”. This adjective is found only twice in the New Testament, in 1 Corinthians 11:20 and Revelation 1:10, referring to the Lord’s supper and the Lord’s day, respectively. |
| 1 Cor 11:20 Therefore when you meet together, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper, The Lord’s is the word NT:2960 kuriakos (koo-ree-ak-os’); from NT:2962, kurios; belonging to the Lord (Jehovah or Jesus): (Biblesoft’s New Exhaustive Strong’s Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.) Rev 1:10-11 I was in the spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like the sound of a trumpet, NASU Much like we have eliminated Old Testament and New Testament from our vocabulary, I think it is time to eliminate “Church” as well! If as close as we can come to it, is a transliteration of kuriakos, we have a pretty weak case for using it at all. |
Transliteration vs. Translation:
The word “church” is a transliteration of the Greek “kuriakos,” rather than a translation of its meaning into English. This means that the word “church” does not accurately convey the original Greek concept.
Substitution for ekklēsia: In English translations of the New Testament, the word “church” substitutes for the Greek noun “ekklēsia” (ἐκκλησία), which occurs 114 times in the Greek New Testament. This substitution obscures the original meaning of “ekklēsia”, which refers to the gathering or assembly of believers.
Alternative etymologies:
Some sources propose alternative etymologies for the word “church”, including:
Connection to the name “Circe”, a sorceress-goddess from Greek mythology, which is unlikely and lacks historical evidence.
Derivation from the Old English “circe” or “cyrc”, which is related to the Dutch “kerk” and German “Kirche”, ultimately tracing back to the Greek phrase “kuriakon doma” (Lord’s house).
Architectural significance: The term “church” has also been associated with the architectural design of Christian buildings, particularly in traditional Christian architecture, where the plan view forms a Christian cross.”
I am of the opinion that what exists in the Hebrew Scriptures should set the precedence for the Christian Scriptures. For example, Church doesn’t exist in the Hebrew Scriptures any more than resurrection does. But what does exist is qahal — OT:6951 an assembly, a company, a congregation, a convocation
a) an assembly for evil counsel, for war or invasion, for religious purposes Ex. 12:6
b) a company (used of returning exiles) Ez. 38:15
c) a congregation as an organized body Joel 2:16
(from The Online Bible Thayer’s Greek Lexicon and Brown Driver & Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, Copyright © 1993, Woodside Bible Fellowship, Ontario, Canada. Licensed from the Institute for Creation Research.)
Deut 31:30 Then Moses spoke in the hearing of all the assembly of Israel the words of this song, until they were complete: NASU
Judg 20:2 And the chief of all the people, even of all the tribes of Israel, presented themselves in the assembly of the people of God, four hundred thousand footmen that drew sword. KJV
Qahal is used 123 times in the Hebrew Scriptures, coming close to the 114 of ekklesia!
Other usages of Assembly in the Hebrew Scriptures:
5712, edah, 149 times
6116, atsarah, 11 times
5475, cowd, 21 times Job 15:8, 29:4 the secret of God; Ps. 89:7 the assembly of the saints!
4186, mowshab, 44 times
4150, mowed/moed, 223 times Is. 41:13 Mount of Assembly
1 Cor 10:31-32
Whether, then, ye eat, or drink, or do anything, do all to the glory of God;
32 become offenceless, both to Jews and Greeks, and to the assembly of God;
YLT
I know it’s going to be difficultfor us to stop using the word Church when it comes to a group of believer’s, but you can still call the buildings, churches. Otherwise, the Body of Christ is the Assembly of God.
Some Differences between being Born Again and Being Saved
In order to understand what being “born again” means we must first look at the context in which it is used.
John 3:1-8
Nicodemus was a Pharisee and a member of the Jewish council.
2 He came to Jesus one night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that God has sent you as a teacher. No one can perform the miracles you perform unless God is with him.”
3 Jesus replied to Nicodemus, “I can guarantee this truth: No one can see the kingdom of God without being born from above (anoothen).” This is normally translated born again.
4 Nicodemus asked him, “How can anyone be born when he’s an old man? He can’t go back inside his mother a second time to be born, can he?”
5 Jesus answered Nicodemus, “I can guarantee this truth: No one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and the spirit (pneuma).
6 Flesh and blood give birth to flesh and blood, but the Spirit (pneuma) gives birth to things that are spiritual (pneuma).
7 Don’t be surprised when I tell you that all of you must be born from above (anoothen).
8 The wind (pneuma) blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you don’t know where it comes from or where it’s going. That’s the way it is with everyone born of the spirit (pneuma).”
(from GOD’S WORD Copyright © 1995 by God’s Word to the Nations Bible Society. All rights reserved.)
The next usage of anothen is in verse 31:
John 3:31-34
He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the spirit by measure unto him. KJV
What was it that Jesus expected Nicodemus to know? For starters, Ezek 11:19:
“And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:” KJV
Also, Ezek 36:26-27: “A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.” KJV
Finally, Jer 31:33-34: “But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” KJV
This is what Jesus knew and expected Nicodemus to know as well. Jesus expected “those days” that Jeremiah spoke about, to begin immediately after his ascension and culminate with the Battle of Armageddon, when the Kingdom of God would begin. His mindset was a relatively short period of time.
Now, let’s take a look at anagennao, to produce again, to beget again, to beget anew. Its first usage is in 1 Peter 1:3-5:
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.”
NKJV
The second and final usage 1 Peter 1:22-23: “Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, 23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever, NKJV
In contrasting the usages of these Greek words we can immediately see that there is no mention of “seed” or any “begetting” in John. Not only that, but we also see with that seed is an incorruptible, undefiled inheritance that does njot fade away with time! It is also interesting that 1:5 mentions “the last time,” perhaps a parallel of “after those days.”
In summary we know Jesus was talking to “a master (teacher) of Israel” and that he, Jesus, was referring to some Hebrew Scriptures when he spoke of being born from above and seeing and entering the kingdom of God. For the Jews, it was going to be impossible for them to enter into the kingdom without God making it happen. Ezekiel and Jeremiah show us that God was going to put his spirit in them and they are, in the future, going to walk in his ways.
On the other hand, both Jew and Gentile can be begotten again now, enjoy the current benefits of salvation, reap the rewards of our godly works in heaven and then enjoy the full benefits of salvation after those days of the tribulation. I would say there is a vast difference between what Jesus and Peter were speaking of. And these are just the ones on the surface!
WHERE WAS JESUS REALLY BORN?
It is easy to see why we misunderstand as much as we do about the birth of Christ, since Matthew 2:1 begins almost 2 years after he was born, when the Magi came bearing gifts. For the sake of this teaching we will turn to Luke chapter 2 to find some of the details prior to his birth. The following will be from Young’s Literal Translation:
Luke 2:2-7
2 And it came to pass in those days, there went forth a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world be enrolled — this enrollment first came to pass when Cyrenius was governor of Syria —3 and all were going to be enrolled, each to his proper city, and Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, to Judea, to the city of David, that is called Bethlehem, because of his being of the house and family of David, to enroll himself with Mary his betrothed wife, being with child. And it came to pass, in their being there, the days were fulfilled for her bringing forth, and she brought forth her son — the first-born, and wrapped him up, and laid him down in the manger, because there was not for them a place in the guest-chamber. YLT
The guest-chamber (Inn in the KJV) in those days was a room adjacent to the house for the lodging of guests. These days some people have Guest-houses, while others may have Guest-rooms. The Greek word is kataluma. It is used 1 other time in Luke and once in Mark. In both instances it is translated ”guest-chamber” in the King James Version:
Mark 14:14
And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guest-chamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
KJV;
Mark 14:14 NASB & NRSV:
and wherever he enters, say to the owner of the house,’ The Teacher says, “Where is My guest room
Luke 22:11
And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guest-chamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples? KJV)
The Guest Chamber or room was part of the house, not an outbuilding like a barn or a shed. Joseph and Mary were not out in the cold with no place to go. They were at a friend’s house or at the very least a friend of a friend. They were like royalty, direct descendants of King David and they were in the city of David. They didn’t just arrive but had been there at least a few days already . Anyone would have been glad to have them in their home, let alone the fact Mary was in her 9th month of pregnancy. Let’s read verse 6 of Luke 2 again in the NASB:
Luke 2:6
And it came about that while they were there,
They weren’t just getting there on the back of a donkey like movies show. They had been in town a few, if not several days. Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words explains it the best:
kataluma (kata/luma, NT:2646), akin to kataluo (see Note above), signifies (a) “an inn, lodging-place,” Luke 2:7; (b) “a guest-room,” Mark 14:14; Luke 22:11. The word lit. signifies “a loosening down” (kata, “down,” luo, “to loose”), used of the place where travelers and their beasts untied their packages, girdles and sandals. “In the East, no figure is more invested with chivalry than the guest. In his own right he cannot cross the threshold, but when once he is invited in, all do him honor and unite in rendering service; cf. Gen 18:19; Judg 19:9,15.” These two passages in the NT concern a room in a private house, which the owner readily placed at the disposal of Joseph and Mary. (from Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words, Copyright © 1985, Thomas Nelson Publishers.)
Now, what is a manger? A Manger is the feeding trough for animals and a cozy place for a baby!
NT:5336 phatne (fat’-nay); from pateomai (to eat); a crib (for fodder):
(Biblesoft’s New Exhaustive Strong’s Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
So, there you have it; no barn, no stall, no cows, sheep or oxen, no donkeys (hee-haw)! No mean, old Inn-keeper! No snow on the ground, either.
Merry Christmas and may God Bless you all in the name of Jesus Christ!
Israel and the New Covenant
Some things Christians believe never fail to amaze me. One of them is what is named “the New Covenant.” Covenants have been and always will pertain to Israel, not the Church of God in Christ Jesus.
The Book of Hebrews will be a lot more familiar to a Hebrew than to a Gentile. The language and the words used will be much more understandable to them. Nevertheless, this “new” covenant mentioned in detail 14 times from 8:6 to 13:20 will leave even former Gentile, now Christian believers, with no doubt to whom this covenant applies.
8:6 tells us that Jesus will be the mediator of this new covenant. Verse 8 begins a quote of Jeremiah 31:31-34 which goes like this:
31 “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah,……NASB
It is pretty clear “to whom” this new covenant applies. This prophecy is yet to come to be fulfilled.
8:10 and 10:16 says “After those days,”—-after what days? “Those days” aren’t just any days, but refer to the Day(s) of the LORD, the days of the vengeance of our God.
Matt 24:19
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in “those” days!
KJV
Matt 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake “those” days shall be shortened.
KJV
Matt 24:29-30
Immediately after the tribulation of “those” days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
KJV
Yes, after these days of the Great Tribulation, will this new covenant be enacted for the faithful of Israel who live through it and those who are raised from the dead at the First Resurrection, that of the Just.
Covenants apply to Jews, not Gentiles nor the Church of God. God Bless!
Fred S. Wolfe
72 Virgins or The Lake of Fire?

” Islamo Nazi’s are in for a big surprise!”
IMHO, I believe the biggest lie in practically all world religions is that there is “Life immediately after Death.” Muslims for example pattern much of what they believe after the Old Testament of the Bible and specifically the Torah. Christians and Jews each believe in the Resurrection of/from the Dead. What would be the point in believing in the resurrection of the dead if the dead were already alive in Heaven or as some believe in Paradise?
From what I have read Jesus Christ, the “monogenetic” son of God, is the only human being whose flesh was not allowed to rot in the grave, Sheol. Until the Administration of the Secret, all any believer had to look forward to after death was the resurrection of the Just; it was the Jews one, big hope. I think Martha said it best when speaking to Jesus of her dead husband Lazarus, “Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”–John 11:24–KJV
In John 11, Lazarus had been dead 4 days and stunk to high heaven! But, why wasn’t he already in heaven or Paradise? Heck, he was one of Jesus’ best friends. If one of the malefactors crucified with Jesus was going to be in Paradise immediately after his death, surely Lazarus would be too, right? If someone who robbed people by threatening their lives was going to be in Paradise immediately following their death, certainly a righteous believer whom the Lord Jesus loved would be. But, the fact of the matter is, neither of them were. And no one who has ever drawn breath on this earth besides Jesus is!
1 Cor 15:20-23–But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept (dead in the grave, Sheol). For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. (When?) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. Aside from the Gathering Together, episunagoge, of the Church of God, the resurrection “at his coming” will be that of the Just. Luke 14:14–And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just. KJV
Acts 24:14-15–But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: and have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. This means that someday everyone who has ever lived will raised from the dead, some to everlasting life and others to the 2nd death. Rev 20:5-6 says,
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection (the Just): on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. KJV
Islamic extremists who kill themselves while murdering others have nothing to look forward to but the second death. They will certainly be among those who are treated to a swim in a heated pool after the resurrection of the Unjust. Rev 20:12-14
And I saw the dead (not the living), small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell, sheol, delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Can you see where the dead are? They are not in heaven or paradise). The dead are in the sea or on land, in the grave, nowhere else.
Rev 21:8–But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death. ESV
Death is an enemy and always will be. Death will not be destroyed until after the Millennial Kingdom as you see above. We were not created to die, but to live forever. When we make Jesus, Lord and believe God, YHWH, raised him from the dead we will receive eternal life. After death, we will all sleep with our father’s, just like everyone else, but Jesus! God bless!

Part IV of the Apocalupsis of John, the Book called Revelation
In the preceding 3 posts I have established beyond any doubt that the miscalled “churches” in The Apocalupsis of John are in reality assemblies or congregations of Jews, members of the Nation of Israel. To give you an example of how unsound some believers can be, a woman, whose blog I used to follow, said to me, “If Jesus called them churches, then that’s what they are!” Unfortunately Jesus has had nothing to do with how translators have chosen to translate most of the words in the Bible. Out of 17 Bible versions or translations in my PC Bible program only these 3 translate ecclesia properly:
Rev 1:4
John to the seven assemblies that [are] in Asia:
YLT- Young’s Literal Translation
Rev 1:4
4 John to the seven assemblies
Darby
Rev 1:4
4 John, to the seven assemblies that are in Asia:
WEB- World English Bible
If you are a serious workman of the Word or want to be you must invest in some PC Bible program or buy a lot of Bibles! On my way home from NY last Sunday by way of Chicago I had the opportunity to sit next to a young Jewish girl who had recently become a Christian. She was very well versed in the “mainstream” doctrines of Christianity. She was surprised to hear many things I had to say about beliefs she held and took a copious amount of notes on her phone. I was able to show her from the Scriptures (on her phone) passages which substantiated what I had to say, but she could not find one Scripture to substantiate anything she believed! Everything she believed hear-say and much of that was heresy!
She was even astonished to see from 1 Corinthians 10:32 that the apostle Paul established that there are only 3 types of people in the world; Jews, Gentiles and the Church of God. She was equally surprised to see these verses:
Gal 3:28-29
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
KJV
She was insisting that she was a Jew for Jesus. What an absurd belief. I tried to explain to her that once a Jew or a Gentile became born again of the spirit of God by confessing Jesus as their Lord and believing God raised him from the dead, they became members of the Church of God. She could not let go of her ancestry and she could not understand how I could be of the seed of Abraham. She really imploded when I told her that Abraham was a Gentile and not a Jew!
Abram is first mentioned in Ge. 11:26; his name was changed to Abraham in Ge. 17:5. Jacob isn’t mentioned until Ge. 25:26 and his name was not changed to Israel until Ge. 32:28. The word Jew is not mentioned until the book of Esther and then it applied to a descendant of Judah. Abraham is called a Hebrew in Ge. 14:13 which means a descendant of Eber. Eber is first mentioned in Ge. 10:21. Eber lived 464 years; see Ge. 11:16.
I could go on and on, but the point you need to see is that the word Hebrew had nothing to do with Jews or Israel originally; that Israel did not exist in Ge. 11. Therefore Abraham could not have been a Jew, but rather a Gentile.
The most astonishing thing that this young Jew for Jesus had to say to me was that no one could be a Christian or a member of the Church of God without confessing and believing that Jesus was God incarnate. I asked where she got this from in the Scriptures and she did not know precisely. I showed her Romans 10:9 where it says to confess Jesus as Lord which she said means God, because God is the “Lord” God. I proceeded to show here in Acts 2:36 that God had bestowed His title as Lord upon Jesus. Jesus is my Lord, my master. Nowhere in the Pauline Epistles does it talk about the Lord God or the Lord our God. They show God as our Father and Jesus Christ as our Lord! Lord is used 241 times in the Epistles which are written directly to the Church of God and never is the title attached to God!
To the Jew God will always be the Lord; but to the Christian, Jesus is our Lord, not our God. Here is what Lord means, in case it is not clear yet:
NT:2962 kurios, kuriou, ho
he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has the power of deciding; master, lord
a. used universally, of the possessor and disposer of a thing, the owner Matt 20:8
b. kurios
is a title of honor, expressive of respect and reverence, with which servants salute their master, Matt 13:27; 25:20,22; Luke 13:8; 14:22, etc.;
c. this title is given:
to God, the ruler of the universe Matt 1:22 (OT, Gospels and Revelation)
to the Messiah; and that:
to the Messiah regarded universally: Luke 1:43
to Jesus as the Messiah, Acts 10:36
d. of Christ (In the Epistles)
(from Thayer’s Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)
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(More on Revelation in the next post).