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Sons of God

Following up on last night’s teaching:  

(10/27/25, https://www.youtube.com/@doctrineandpractice7337) and the clarification I sought on becoming angels, I decided to look up “sons of God.” The KJV lists 6 usages in the CS, (Christian Scriptures). Upon looking at them, four were 5043 and two were 5207, teknon and huios, respectively. Since “inquiring minds” want to know, I decided to look “sons of God” in Darby in the CS and there are only 4; 2 of the same and 2 different ones. The 2 same are Ro 8:14,19. The 2 different ones are Mt 5:9 and Lk 20:36. 

Then I looked up huios in the Englishman’s and it coincided with the 4 usages of SoG in Darby. I found the Luke usage particularly interesting. 

Luke 20:34-36 And Jesus said to them, The sons of this world marry and are given in marriage, but they who are counted worthy to have part in that world, and the resurrection from among [the] dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; for neither can they die any more, for they are equal to angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. 

Darby 

This verse is the “clincher:” 

Luke 20:36 

36 for neither can they die any more, for they are equal to angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.  Darby 

In there we have the word “counted worthy.”  Are we not already counted worthy in Christ? 

“…they who shall be accounted worthy, NT:2661 

kataxioo (kat-ax-ee-o’-o); from NT:2596 and NT:515; to deem entirely deserving: 

This word is only used 3X, here, Acts 5:41 and 2Thess. 1:5 

Acts 5:40-42 

40 And they listened to his advice; and having called the apostles, they beat them and enjoined them not to speak in the name of Jesus and dismissed them. 

41 They therefore went their way from [the] presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to be dishonoured for the name. 

42 And every day, in the temple and in the houses, they ceased not teaching and announcing the glad tidings that Jesus [was] the Christ. Darby 

2 Thess 1:4-7 

4 so that we ourselves make our boast in you in the assemblies of God for your endurance and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations, which ye are sustaining; 

5 a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, to the end that ye should be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for the sake of which ye also suffer; 

6 if at least [it is a] righteous thing with God to render tribulation to those that trouble you, 

7 and to you that are troubled repose with us, at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven, with [the] angels of his power, Darby 

IN VERSE 5 ABOVE “should be” kinda stuck in my craw! Here it is in the NAU 

This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering. (2Th 1:5 NAU) 

Whether it is will be, may be or should be, it is still the same single word, kataxioo, which means to deem entirely deserving or judge worthy. I think there is no doubt we will sons of God, equal to angels. 

(The following is Robert B. Wassung’s addition):  

Next, there are a couple (OK, five) in the Hebrew Scriptures that back up the idea that “sons of God” were angelic (and will be angelic). The two (2) in Genesis 6 where we can see quite obviously that they came to the planet of their own volition (reading 2 Peter 2:4 (ye olde “angels that sinned”) and Jude 6 (“angels that did not keep their own principality”)). They were angelic beings, these “sons”. This is backed up by the LXX rendering of the Hebrew “sons of God” in Job 1:6 and 2:1 with “angels of God”. So, also, that other verse in Job 38:7 where the LXX also changes “sons of God” to “angels of God”. The Septuagint is sometimes paraphrastic and sometimes as a different substrate. Either way you see what they saw…”sons of God” were angelic. 

One other thing that finally made sense after all these years of wrong teaching was that believing Israel will also, in the resurrection, be “sons of God” and “are equal to the angels” as Fred has shown. They also get new bodies in the resurrection to the earth (first resurrection). They won’t die because they already died once (Revelation 20:6). Second death has no authority over them. 

This should not be used to try to prove that angels cannot die, just that these who were resurrected cannot die again. We know angels die (Psalm 82, those in Genesis 6 who became men and died after 120 years). The Dragon will die and get sent to Sheol (Isaiah 14 and Revelation 20). Some are in Sheol until the “judgment of the great day”. If you’re in Sheol, whether humans sleeping or Rephaim walking around…you’re dead. But when all of us believers will be “born again”/”born from above”/ “born of God” we will make Creation happy since it’s been waiting a while to “see” them. 

The idea that I mentioned (casually) that Christians replace the “sons of God” who initially had dominion over the nations, is built up from these references Fred has given and a few other logical thoughts (we’re going to be “fellow-kings with him” and Jesus (and us) will have “put down all rule and all authority and power. (1 Cor. 15:24). We always say that once we are in heaven via the Rapture, we’ll come back with him (1 Thessalonians 3:13) and “all the holy ones”. 

I just found an interesting podcast (part way through it…) with a guy named David Burnett:  

Replacing the Sons of God & New Celestial Bodies According to the Apostle Paul ft. David Burnett 

In it he proposes that the list of earthly and heavenly creatures in 1 Corinthians 15:39-42 follows the same order of creatures as enumerated in the context of Deuteronomy 4:15-19. There Moses has said that the celestial beings (son, moon and stars…the heavenly host) that can be worshipped…should not be worshipped, duh. But the interesting thing there (and elsewhere in Deuteronomy) is that these celestial beings were “those which the LORD your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven” (Deut. 4:19 NAU). This bespeaks the idea that at Babel, God decided he was done with the “nations” and gave their governance to his “sons” (cf. – Deuteronomy 32:8 (read with the Dead Sea Scrolls and the LXX) with the Babel context). Of course, we know He wanted (and built) Israel from two people. 

Anyway, there’s probably more stuff that shows that we Christians, as fellow-kings with Jesus are taking over their tasks in the Eschaton. 

Fallen Angels

 

 

Most of us have heard about “fallen angels” even though the Bible does not literally support it. If you research “fallen” you will only find one reference to an angel in Is.14:12, which is a prophecy of something to come. This scripture refers the “the Shining One, the Morning Star.”
Isa 14:12
“How you have fallen from heaven,
O star of the morning, son of the dawn! NASU
(The KJV adds the name Lucifer, but there is no such name in the most correct manuscripts).

The reason this verse is still future is because Rev. 12:9 is still future.
9 And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
NASU

“The fallen angels” refers to those mentioned in Jude 6 and 2Pe.2:4.
Jude 6
And angels–those who did not keep the position originally assigned to them, but deserted their own proper abode–He reserves in everlasting bonds, in darkness, in preparation for the judgement of the great day. Weymouth. This seems to be a free will decision to abandon (desert) their own dwelling place and because they did,
2 Peter 2:4
For God did not spare angels when they had sinned, but hurling them down to Tartarus consigned them to caves of darkness, keeping them in readiness for judgement. Weymouth

Because of their own actions, God cast them out of Heaven; they didn’t fall, they were thrown out!

What sin did they did commit to cause this? For those who may not know we can find that answer in Genesis.

Gen 6:1-4
Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God (angels) saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. NASU

Gen 6:4
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days and also later. That was when the sons of God had sexual relations with the daughters of human beings. These women gave birth to children, who became famous and were the mighty warriors of long ago. NCV

The offspring of these angels were/are the Nephilim. Goliath was a Nephilim, a member of a super race of people, continually evil, mighty warriors and famous men of renown. Nimrod was another. This is the sin that these particular angels committed. They have been in Tartarus ever since the Flood.

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