Part III of Identifying the False Prophet; the Predecessor of the Antichrist
The only other place in the Christian Scriptures that something of this magnitude is spoken about is in 2 Thess 2:1-10:
Now, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together to him, we ask you
2 not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Christ had come.
3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction,
4 he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God.
5 Don’t you remember that, when I was still with you, I told you these things?
6 Now you know what is restraining him, to the end that it may be revealed in its own season.
7 For the mystery of lawlessness already works. Only there is one who restrains now, until it is taken out of the way.
8 Then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will kill with the breath of his mouth, and destroy by the manifestation of his coming;
9 even he whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 and with all deception of wickedness for those who are being lost, because they didn’t receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
WEB
- Foremost in this passage is the mis-translation of the word kurios in verse 2. Kurios means lord or master, not Christ. The day of the Lord and the day of Christ are completely different.
- Verse 1 tells us the main subject, the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together to him. This is a 2-fold purpose.
- The “departure” in verse 3 is our “gathering together” unto him in verse 1. this is the Greek word apostasia. It is only used in 1 other place, Acts 21:21 and is translated as “forsook.”
- The person of sin, who represents “destruction” will not be unveiled until after the gathering together, commonly known as the Rapture.
- This person of destruction will come demonstrating counterfeit signs, miracles and wonders.
- If the departure of verse 3 is actually an apostasy as many believe it is, the the day of the LORD, the day of vengeance of our God will not come until the person of sin is revealed. This will still be after the Rapture.
It is my deduction that the individual Paul is talking about here is the False Prophet that John spoke of in Revelation, because of the lying signs, miracles, and wonders they perform.
What do you think?
Tags: Antichrist, Christian, Christianity, counterfeit, false prophet, Matthew Barnett, phil cooke, the Body of Christ
I am not gotten around to Part II and III, was with other topics in God’s Word.
LikeLike
I am writing these just for you! Take your time it is a lot to learn. God bless,
LikeLike
Your starting statement is in error friend. It needs to be corrected. 2 Thes 2:2 does NOT use the word Kurios …” as though the day of [(the) Lord] had come : Granted, the NU text translates it as such. But we have the Greek and It has been translated correctly FROM THE GREEK as …” the day of Christ” ; 5547 Christos; NOT 2962 Kurios: …
See also Phil 1:6, 10; 2:16 The day of Christos…
And friend 2 Thes 2:3 regarding the falling away is not the rapture… Doctrines of men and demons define it as such but not the Word of God:: to understander the apostasia ( apostasy) of the church which spearheads the coming of the antichrist because it falls into apostasy and no longer is a restraining factor… Understand the use of the greek word translated as “falling away” in light of other Scripture:
1 Tim 4:1
Luke 8:13
Acts 5:37 all use the exact same greek word 646; apostasia
If the Holy Spirit meant the rapture He would have said until the harpazo; 726; or used 3380 paralambano used in Matt 24: 40, 41 or Airo;142… Which connotates the exact meaning many are twisting apostasia to mean.
Finally in this short correction which you need Sir- for all Scripture is profitable for it…
Consider this thought:
God’s Word calls it the apostasy
Satan’s ministers of light call it the rapture…
In the Garden God said – You shall surely die…
Satan said you shall not surely die…
So much more will the Spirit open your eyes to see friend but your Laodician tendencies need eye salve first…
His friend, Jeff
LikeLike
Thank you Jeff for your candid comment and opinion. I appreciate it.
God bless,
LikeLike
Who is “we” Jeff? There are much better manuscripts for the Greek since the putting together of the TR, but you seem to know better than the NU which you are supposed to prescribe to.
How can you call me “friend” and Satan’s minister with the same mouth?
Apostasy is not the translation of apostasia, brother, but merely a transliteration and the KJV is not the “end all” version that only represents the Word of God. There are more errors in it than most others.
LikeLike
BTW, what shape do you see this Apostasy taking; what will it look like?
LikeLike
The best Greek manuscripts have “day of the Lord”. What is the “NU text”??
Do you read the critical Greek editions to get your data?
LikeLike
I think I replied once but will again. As to 2 Thess 2:2
that is at hand. the day of Christ
3754 1764 3588 2250 3588
hóti enésteeken hee heeméra toú Kuríou
This is what mt Greek Lexicon shows, Kuriou for Christ. As you well know Kuriou does not mean Christ.
(Interlinear Transliterated Bible. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved. [For more detail see the full copyright page.])
2 Thess 2:3
3 no man you Let deceive by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and be revealed, that man of
3588 646
hee apostasía
(Interlinear Transliterated Bible. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved. [For more detail see the full copyright page.])
Apostasy is mere a transliteration of apostasy. IMHO apostasy, as we understand it, has been ongoing since Timothy. 1 Tim 1:20
20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
KJV
2 Thess 2:3
that day shall not come, = not in the texts.
Here is the proper rendering: 2 Thess 2:2-4
that you may not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. NASB If there is an apostasy, this describes it–the man of lawlessness revealed. This fits perfectly well with the Day of the LORD, not Christ.
God’s Word calls it the “standing away from.”
I appreciate giving me some scriptures to consider. Apostasia is not used in 1 Tim. 4:1, aphistemi is. Its roots are not apo or stasia. Luke 8:13 is aphistemi also. Same goes for Acts 5:37.
Instead of being as judgmental to you as you were to me I will just say you made a few mistakes attempting to correct me, Sir. You were so sure of yourself that you said “all use the exact same greek word 646; apostasia”
The fact is there is only 1 other place that uses the “exact” word: Acts 21:21
And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to “forsake” Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. KJV
Forget the eye salve Matt 7:4
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
KJV
His son, Fred
LikeLike